Welcome to Borrowed Planet

Borrowed Planet is a group which has recently been set up by parents in Leeds to take action to stop runaway climate change.

We launched on 5th July with a showing of the film The Age of Stupid.  There were also lots of kids’ activities – you can see photos on the right – and one below:

Children making a banner at the launch of Borrowed Planet

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  1. Harold M. George said

    Noticed Robin Fishwick’s letter in the Yorkshire Post tonight (10/08/2009).

    I thought I had recent seen a mention that the MOD had objected to the Micklefield Windfarm on the grounds of radar interference to militart aircraft. Now the same MOD has raised no objection to the Bishop Wood and Wood Lane windfarm sites, even though miltary Chinooks overfly Hambleton village just 4 miles from Selby.

    I support the wind farm at Bishop Wood and find that the NIMBY lobby uses truth stretching to frighten resident between the A162 and just east of Selby.

    Now I have submitted a letter in support of the wind farms negating all that the NIMBY’s claim.

    Maybe you would like to support the non-NIMBY’s in the Selby area.

    Selby District Council have a planning web site that gives acess to some (possibly all) of the letters written in.

    The Plannig application no to acess this site is 2009/0464/FUL (use capitals for the FUL only)

    If you would like to see my letter I can e-mail it over.

    Thank you

  2. Chris Coyle said

    As a resident of Garforth I am delighted to see the back of the Micklefield wind farm. The objections lodged by the MOD were enormous good fortune on our part and probably the only way these plans for a power station would ever have been thrown out.
    I notice that your website is registered to someone in Leeds 13. To those of you desperate for a wind farm in Micklefield, I would say this – it is just a field, no windier than anywhere else in Leeds. If you feel so strongly about the need for such a facility, there are acres of farmland just south of Bramley. Lead by example and run a campaign for a wind farm in the fields at the end of your own street. Until then in my eyes, you are merely pro-active nimbys.
    I remain confident I will never see such a campaign.

  3. Harold and Chris, thanks for your comments. I’m one of the members of Borrowed Planet.

    Harold, that’s interesting – I’d be keen to hear more about that. If you don’t mind please email your letter to me via infoATborrowedplanet.org.uk

    Chris – the pro-active NIMBY line is a good one, but sadly not true. I’ve looked at your website and it’s clear that there’s little point in me trying to change your mind on this issue. However, it’s maybe worth telling you a bit about why I got involved with Borrowed Planet.

    Although you may have doubts about the science, I do believe a lot of the science when it comes to the possibilities of runaway climate change, if we don’t do something about reducing the amount of carbon that’s released into the atmosphere.

    I think we are seeing changes already, but big impacts won’t be felt until it is too late to do anything about it. That’s why we have come together to look at this issue. And we aim to attract parents in particular because we believe that it’s the next generation who are going to put up with most of the problems, if we don’t do something about it now. I personally don’t want that on my conscience, and I believe it would be selfish of me, and it is selfish of others, not to engage seriously with this issue.

    Personally I’m doing things to try to take responsibility for the energy and resources I consume. They are small steps, and won’t make a massive difference on their own, but I believe that you have to start somewhere. So for example we’re reducing how much energy we consume at home, and cutting down on sub 5 mile car journeys.

    On the wind farm issue, you have encouraged me to look into this issue in more detail to try to understand the specific issues in this case. I’ll also visit the site to see how close it is to local houses.

    Would I be happy to see a wind farm near to my house? I think if a planning application was submitted without any prior warning, then I would be suspicious. I would want to find out about it to check that it was appropriate and safe. However, I believe that we need to look at different ways to produce the energy we consume, and I believe that I also need to take responsibility for the energy I consume. Part of that is accepting that my local landscape may need to change in order to produce the energy I consume.

    Depending on the specific circumstances, I may not be totally happy about that. But if I want to keep consuming energy, then maybe I need to put up with that. The days of not taking any responsibility for our consumption are long gone.

    Thanks

    Rob

  4. Chris Coyle said

    Rob
    You make my website sound very dubious. It’s a community website, it has 60 thousand visitors a year, it reflects the views of our community, our elected representatives and me – 835 objections to the wind farm….

    You also appear to have dodged my challenge to lead by example and establish a wind farm in your own community. You’ve set out your position if a local wind farm was proposed – you will look for the negatives (and will have no problem finding them). Do you think groups from outside your immediate area will care about your concerns? Did you care about ours? In their eyes, you ARE Robert Nimby.

    I take my lead on global warming from Bjorn Lomborg and his practical solutions. Anyone who has not read his book ‘Cool It‘, you should do so. Give me common sense every time.

    Regards
    Chris

  5. Carolyn Walker said

    As the site of this proposed wind farm is approximately 500m from my home I feel reasonably well placed to comment. I object most strongly to an industrial development on this large scale at my front door. I will happily get on the NIMBY bus, and reckon, like Chris, that people across Leeds breathed a sigh of relief at the thought of this being on someone else’s doostep.

    However, for anyone who chooses to have a trip out to the proposed site to see for themselves, they will notice the wind test mast,. At 60m tall, this is 65m shorter than turbines would be. It’s also slimmer and soundless.

    Stand in the centre of the village and see how turbines of 125m tall would dominate. The land is higher on the propsed site and therefore would appear even taller than their actual height.Go on to Jane Davis of Nicholas St. Deeping’s website and read and listen to her story about noise, especially at night, and how her family was driven from their home. The developers by their own admission cannot say exactly what sound issues there may or may not be.

    Renewable energy does not necessarily have to be wind powered. Indeed, currently the landfill site at Peckfield on the outskirts of Micklefield is producing 3MW of renewable energy from methane. (The environment agency is currently monitoring and trying to resolve the dreadful smell that eminates from this site.) . With all the problems that come with this site, rightly or wrongly I believe that our village is already “doing its bit” for renewable energy in Leeds.

    The MoD objected to this site around very specific issues with radar and the safety of military and civilian aircraft. I went to the Plans Panel meeting and heard it for myself. A stroke of good fortune for the area, gratefully accepted.

  6. Robin Fishwick said

    I can’t remember exactly what I wrote in the letter to the YEP, but I’m sure I did express appreciation of the sacrifices already made and further being asked of the residents of the Micklefield area. I’m sorry that we seem to have got into a “how would you like it on your doorstep?” question. Personally I would not object to a windfarm in my own patch, but even saying that might strike some as disingenuous, as the visual impact on the Leeds13 or Leeds12 landscape would be totally different from the proposed site.

    I do think, though that we respond differently to the appearance of wind turbines and our aesthetic reaction is not totally independent of our attitudes. When I see wind turbines, I tend to feel uplifted by them, not least because I see them as doing some good – just as most people would react worse to a power station cloud than a naturally formed one, despite them looking identical .

    I sympathise with Carolyn’s view that the village is already “doing it’s bit” with the methane combustion plant. Unfortunately the “bits” are not fairly divided when it comes to tackling greenhouse gas emissions and some of us will have to do more than others . In Borrowed Planet we are aware that we all need to do more to tackle climate change and until the planet is out of danger none of us can sit back and say “I’ve done my bit”. We all have to do what we can – if Micklefield has to do two things it may not be fair, but still is better than disappearing under the North Sea. As Ed Milliband said recently “we have to get the message accross that the enemy of the environment is not wind farms, it is climate change”.

  7. Chris Coyle said

    What total twaddle Robin. “How would you like it on your doorstep?” is the key question and one that you clearly don’t want to consider. Personally, you wouldn’t mind having them but you think they wouldn’t look quite right “on your doorstep”, well personally, I think a cluster of 400 ft wind turbines would improve LS12/13. If it helps, try thinking of them as Angels of the North with waggling arms.

    When exactly are you going to start doing your bit? Or does your bit consist of campaigning to inflict these power stations on everybody else? Stop being a nimby and lead by example. Find a field in your area and go tell the wind farmers about it.

    As Ed Milliband omitted to say recently “they won’t be building any wind farms near my home”

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